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Karen Lewellen-2
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In FreeDOS 1.1 there was a boot option 4 rCRLoad FreeDOS without driversrCL.
[see picture 1]
It booted a clean system, with SYSTEM and COMMAND and nothing else. [2]

In FreeDOS 1.2 there is a boot option 3 rCRLoad FreeDOS without drivers
(Emergency Mode) [3]
If you choose it, you load FreeDOS with drivers: HIMEMX, FDAPM, CTMOUSE, UDVD2,
SHSUCDXrCa [4]

WouldnrCOt it be better not to load drivers? If people choose not to? ItrCOs
called rCREmergency moderCL after all...

There is also a boot option 4 rCRLoad FreeDOS low with some drivers (Safe
Mode)rCL [5]
But it is not loaded LOW, as promised. In FDCONFIG.SYS you find:
124?DOS=HIGH
rCa
124?DOSDATA=UMB
Isn't this the opposite of low? [6]

Probably thererCOs a quick way to fix the whole thing: Exchange only the titles
of menu options  3 and 4 and delete every 4? in FDCONFIG.SYS except the line
that loads SHELL=C:\FDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM.  [7]

WouldnrCOt this make more sense? Please correct me if IrCOm wrong.

[1] https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.1-without-drivers.png
<https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.1-without-drivers.png>
[2] https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.1-without-drivers2.png
<https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.1-without-drivers2.png>
[3] https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.2-without-drivers.png
<https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.2-without-drivers.png>
[4] https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.2-without-drivers2.png
<https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.2-without-drivers2.png>
[5] https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.2-with-some-drivers.png
<https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.2-with-some-drivers.png>
[6] https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.2-with-some-drivers2.png
<https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.2-with-some-drivers2.png>

[7] New FDCONFIG.SYS:

SET DOSDIR=C:\FDOS

!COUNTRY=001,858,C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS
!LASTDRIVE=Z
!BUFFERS=20
!FILES=40
!MENUCOLOR=7,0

MENUDEFAULT=2,5
MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with EMM386 (Expanded Memory) and SHARE loaded
MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS low with some drivers (Safe Mode)
MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS without drivers (Emergency Mode)

12?DOS=HIGH
12?DOS=UMB
12?DOSDATA=UMB
1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG
23?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE
2?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST I=TEST I=B000-B7FF NOVME NOINVLPG
34?SHELL=C:\FDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
12?SHELLHIGH=C:\FDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT



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<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html
charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode:
space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">In FreeDOS 1.1 there
was a boot option 4 rCRLoad FreeDOS without driversrCL. [see picture 1]<div
class="">It booted a clean system, with SYSTEM and COMMAND and nothing else.
[2]</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In FreeDOS 1.2 there is
a boot option 3 rCRLoad FreeDOS without drivers (Emergency Mode) [3]</div><div
class="">If you choose it, you load FreeDOS with drivers: HIMEMX, FDAPM,
CTMOUSE, UDVD2, SHSUCDXrCa [4]</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div
class="">WouldnrCOt it be better not to load drivers? If people choose not to?
ItrCOs called rCREmergency moderCL after all...</div><div class=""><br
class=""></div><div class="">There is also a boot option 4 rCRLoad FreeDOS low
with some drivers (Safe Mode)rCL [5]</div><div class="">But it is not loaded
LOW, as promised. In FDCONFIG.SYS you find:</div><div
class="">124?DOS=HIGH</div><div class="">rCa</div><div
class="">124?DOSDATA=UMB</div><div class="">Isn't this the opposite of low?
[6]&nbsp;</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Probably
thererCOs a quick way to fix the whole thing: Exchange only the titles of menu
options &nbsp;3 and 4 and delete every 4? in FDCONFIG.SYS except the line that
loads SHELL=C:\FDOS\BIN\<a href="http://command.com" class="">COMMAND.COM</a>.
&nbsp;[7]&nbsp;</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">WouldnrCOt
this make more sense? Please correct me if IrCOm wrong.</div><div class=""><br
class=""></div><div class="">[1]&nbsp;<a
href="https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.1-without-drivers.png"
class="">https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.1-without-drivers.png</a></div><div class="">[2]&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.1-without-drivers2.png" class="">https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.1-without-drivers2.png</a></div><div class="">[3]&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.2-without-drivers.png" class="">https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.2-without-drivers.png</a></div><div class="">[4]&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.2-without-drivers2.png" class="">https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.2-without-drivers2.png</a></div><div class="">[5]&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.2-with-some-drivers.png" class="">https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.2-with-some-drivers.png</a></div><div class="">[6]&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.2-with-some-drivers2.png" class="">https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/1.2-with-s
ome-drivers2.png</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">[7] New FDCONFIG.SYS:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">SET DOSDIR=C:\FDOS<br class=""><br class="">!COUNTRY=001,858,C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS<br class="">!LASTDRIVE=Z<br class="">!BUFFERS=20<br class="">!FILES=40<br class="">!MENUCOLOR=7,0<br class=""><br class="">MENUDEFAULT=2,5<br class="">MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free<br class="">MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with EMM386 (Expanded Memory) and SHARE loaded<br class="">MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS low with some drivers (Safe Mode)<br class="">MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS without drivers (Emergency Mode)<br class=""><br class="">12?DOS=HIGH<br class="">12?DOS=UMB<br class="">12?DOSDATA=UMB<br class="">1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG<br class="">23?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE<br class="">2?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST I=TEST I=B000-B7FF NOVME NOINVLPG<br class="">34?SHELL=C:\FDOS\BIN\<
a href="http://command.com" class="">COMMAND.COM</a> C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT<br class="">12?SHELLHIGH=C:\FDOS\BIN\<a href="http://command.com" class="">COMMAND.COM</a> C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></body></html>
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Re: Bug? Confusing boot options in FreeDOS 1.2

Karen Lewellen-2
From: Ulrich Hansen <[hidden email]>


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> Am 08.02.2017 um 22:46 schrieb Jerome Shidel <[hidden email]
<mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>
> Bug? Not really.
> Is it correct? Not even close.

Then lets correct it. :-) ItrCOs pretty easy, as I showed in my last mail.

> Also, #2 should not say EMM386 when it uses JEMM386.

ThatrCOs even easier. :-)

> The current 1.2 config files are based on a clean install of 1.1 into VMware
Fusion. Then a some things were added, moved, changed and removed.

Yes, the following line (which skipped all the drivers)

if "%config%rCL=="4" GOTO END

was left in AUTOEXEC.BAT although the "no driversrCL option was changed to
config 3 in FDCONFIG.SYS. That may have been the root of all evilrCa

At the moment both options are doing the opposite of what they say they do.
Instead of loading DOS low with some drivers, option 4 loads DOS high with no
drivers. Nobody complained about that, so here is another suggestion:

How about DROPPING option 4 (SOME DRIVERS) completely? Was it ever useful?
People can always hit F8 for singlestepping...

I suggest to keep the NO DRIVERS option though, which should be exactly that:
No drivers, no memory managers, DOS not loaded high.

Dropping option 4 and keeping a clean option3 would mean deleting everything
with a 4 in FDCONFIG.SYS and removing the 3 from the HIMEMX line. And changing
the line in AUTOEXEC.BAT to

if "%config%rCL=="3" GOTO END

If this is too radical, see the suggestion in my last mail...

Ulrich
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<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space;
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div
class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Am 08.02.2017 um 22:46 schrieb Jerome
Shidel &lt;<a href="mailto:[hidden email]"
class="">[hidden email]</a>&gt;:<br class=""><br class="">Bug? Not
really.<br class="">Is it correct? Not even close.<br class=""></blockquote><br
class="">Then lets correct it. :-) ItrCOs pretty easy, as I showed in my last
mail.&nbsp;<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Also, #2
should not say EMM386 when it uses JEMM386.&nbsp;<br class=""></blockquote><br
class="">ThatrCOs even easier. :-)<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote
type="cite" class="">The current 1.2 config files are based on a clean install
of 1.1 into VMware Fusion. Then a some things were added, moved, changed and
removed.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Yes, the following line (which
skipped all the drivers)<br class=""><br class="">if "%config%rCL=="4" GOTO
END<br class=""><br class="">was left in AUTOEXEC.BAT although the "no
driversrCL option was changed to config 3 in FDCONFIG.SYS. That may have been
the root of all evilrCa<br class=""><br class="">At the moment both options are
doing the opposite of what they say they do. Instead of loading DOS low with
some drivers, option 4 loads DOS high with no drivers. Nobody complained about
that, so here is another suggestion:&nbsp;<br class=""><br class="">How about
DROPPING option 4 (SOME DRIVERS) completely? Was it ever useful? People can
always hit F8 for singlestepping...<br class=""><br class="">I suggest to keep
the NO DRIVERS option though, which should be exactly that: No drivers, no
memory managers, DOS not loaded high.<br class=""><br class="">Dropping option
4 and keeping a clean option3 would mean deleting everything with a 4 in
FDCONFIG.SYS and removing the 3 from the HIMEMX line. And changing the line in
AUTOEXEC.BAT to&nbsp;<br class=""><br class="">if "%config%rCL=="3" GOTO
END</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If this is too radical,
see the suggestion in my last mail...<br class=""><br
class="">Ulrich</div></body></html>
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