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Cannot boot FreeDOS on 8086-based IBM PS/2 -- any ideas?

Simon Atkinson
Hi there 

I presume that FreeDOS, like other versions of DOS, will run on an 8086-based system.... or have I missed something?

I have tried to boot FreeDOS on a IBM PS/2 Model 30 (8086 CPU and standard 8-bit ISA and version with a 1.44MB floppy drive), but have had little luck.

The boot disks I created for MSDOS5.0 and OpenDOS 7.01 and DRDOS7.02 work fine – dropping me into the DOS prompt. I can then use their respective versions of FDISK to see to the installed 20MB hard disk etc. These boot disks also work fine if the hard disk is removed allowing me to run the respective version of DOS from the floppy.

However, FreeDOS doesn’t boot at all! I’m puzzled... I’ve tried simple boot disks that I have created based on FreeDOS 1.1 and 1.2, but no luck. For 1.2, for example, I just get a series of dots and the word “ERROR!” When I have tried FreeDOS 1.1, with the hard disk in place, it boots to the point where it list the hard disk’s CHS geometry and then just hangs....

Any ideas?

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Re: Cannot boot FreeDOS on 8086-based IBM PS/2 -- any ideas?

Louis Santillan
You need to make sure you're using the 8086 compiled kernel [0][1].
Pretty sure the freedos site defaults to 8086 kernels (should say in
the kernel boot up) but you may need to overwrite the kernel to get
the correct one installed.

[0] http://www.fdos.org/kernel/
[1] http://www.fdos.org/bootdisks/

On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Simon Atkinson
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi there
>
> I presume that FreeDOS, like other versions of DOS, will run on an
> 8086-based system.... or have I missed something?
>
> I have tried to boot FreeDOS on a IBM PS/2 Model 30 (8086 CPU and standard
> 8-bit ISA and version with a 1.44MB floppy drive), but have had little luck.
>
> The boot disks I created for MSDOS5.0 and OpenDOS 7.01 and DRDOS7.02 work
> fine – dropping me into the DOS prompt. I can then use their respective
> versions of FDISK to see to the installed 20MB hard disk etc. These boot
> disks also work fine if the hard disk is removed allowing me to run the
> respective version of DOS from the floppy.
>
> However, FreeDOS doesn’t boot at all! I’m puzzled... I’ve tried simple boot
> disks that I have created based on FreeDOS 1.1 and 1.2, but no luck. For
> 1.2, for example, I just get a series of dots and the word “ERROR!” When I
> have tried FreeDOS 1.1, with the hard disk in place, it boots to the point
> where it list the hard disk’s CHS geometry and then just hangs....
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Simon
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Re: Cannot boot FreeDOS on 8086-based IBM PS/2 -- any ideas?

userbeitrag
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Hi!

Isnt't FreeDOS dependant on 80286+? Not sure, but pure 8086 isn't very
easy to handle these days. Did you try to boot without any device
drivers at all?

On original 8086 hardware you should try an old version of MS-DOS or DR
DOS. That's what I would do.

Good luck!
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Re: Cannot boot FreeDOS on 8086-based IBM PS/2 -- any ideas?

Andy Stamp
Hello Simon

You could try Mateusz' Svarog86 distribution (http://svarog86.sourceforge.net/).

I am working on an 8088 emulator and I am able to boot his 360k diskette image with no issues.

Cheers,
--Andy


On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 1:22 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi!

Isnt't FreeDOS dependant on 80286+? Not sure, but pure 8086 isn't very
easy to handle these days. Did you try to boot without any device
drivers at all?

On original 8086 hardware you should try an old version of MS-DOS or DR
DOS. That's what I would do.

Good luck!
userbeitrag

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Re: Cannot boot FreeDOS on 8086-based IBM PS/2 -- any ideas?

Mateusz Viste-4
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As other said, you need to be sure to use a 8086 compilation of the
FreeDOS kernel. As an easy test you might want to try out Svarog86,
which is a FreeDOS distribution built specifically for 8086 compatibility:

http://svarog86.sourceforge.net/

Mateusz



On 28/10/2016 19:04, Simon Atkinson wrote:

> Hi there
>
> I presume that FreeDOS, like other versions of DOS, will run on an
> 8086-based system.... or have I missed something?
>
> I have tried to boot FreeDOS on a IBM PS/2 Model 30 (8086 CPU and
> standard 8-bit ISA and version with a 1.44MB floppy drive), but have had
> little luck.
>
> The boot disks I created for MSDOS5.0 and OpenDOS 7.01 and DRDOS7.02
> work fine – dropping me into the DOS prompt. I can then use their
> respective versions of FDISK to see to the installed 20MB hard disk etc.
> These boot disks also work fine if the hard disk is removed allowing me
> to run the respective version of DOS from the floppy.
>
> However, FreeDOS doesn’t boot at all! I’m puzzled... I’ve tried simple
> boot disks that I have created based on FreeDOS 1.1 and 1.2, but no
> luck. For 1.2, for example, I just get a series of dots and the word
> “ERROR!” When I have tried FreeDOS 1.1, with the hard disk in place, it
> boots to the point where it list the hard disk’s CHS geometry and then
> just hangs....
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Simon
> ====>
>
>
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Re: Cannot boot FreeDOS on 8086-based IBM PS/2 -- any ideas?

Jerome Shidel
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> On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:04 PM, Simon Atkinson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi there
>
> I presume that FreeDOS, like other versions of DOS, will run on an 8086-based system.... or have I missed something?
>
> I have tried to boot FreeDOS on a IBM PS/2 Model 30 (8086 CPU and standard 8-bit ISA and version with a 1.44MB floppy drive), but have had little luck.
>
> The boot disks I created for MSDOS5.0 and OpenDOS 7.01 and DRDOS7.02 work fine – dropping me into the DOS prompt. I can then use their respective versions of FDISK to see to the installed 20MB hard disk etc. These boot disks also work fine if the hard disk is removed allowing me to run the respective version of DOS from the floppy.
>
> However, FreeDOS doesn’t boot at all! I’m puzzled... I’ve tried simple boot disks that I have created based on FreeDOS 1.1 and 1.2, but no luck. For 1.2, for example, I just get a series of dots and the word “ERROR!” When I have tried FreeDOS 1.1, with the hard disk in place, it boots to the point where it list the hard disk’s CHS geometry and then just hangs....
>
> Any ideas?


I can’t say for FreeDOS 1.1 distribution files.

However, some of the utilities required by the 1.2 Previews require a 386 or better to function. Also, CD-ROM and bootable USB really was not supported pre-386. So, all of the release images for FreeDOS 1.2 use the kernel built for 386 or better processors. The kernel package that is included with 1.2 contains both the 386 and x86 kernels along with several docs and batch file utilities.

Jerome



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Re: Cannot boot FreeDOS on 8086-based IBM PS/2 -- any ideas?

Simon Atkinson
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Thanks Louis Santillan, userbeitrag, Andy Stamp, Mateusz Viste and Jerome E. Shidel Jr. for your comments and help .... will investigate further and post results shortly....

Simon
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On 28 October 2016 at 18:04, Simon Atkinson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi there 

I presume that FreeDOS, like other versions of DOS, will run on an 8086-based system.... or have I missed something?

I have tried to boot FreeDOS on a IBM PS/2 Model 30 (8086 CPU and standard 8-bit ISA and version with a 1.44MB floppy drive), but have had little luck.

The boot disks I created for MSDOS5.0 and OpenDOS 7.01 and DRDOS7.02 work fine – dropping me into the DOS prompt. I can then use their respective versions of FDISK to see to the installed 20MB hard disk etc. These boot disks also work fine if the hard disk is removed allowing me to run the respective version of DOS from the floppy.

However, FreeDOS doesn’t boot at all! I’m puzzled... I’ve tried simple boot disks that I have created based on FreeDOS 1.1 and 1.2, but no luck. For 1.2, for example, I just get a series of dots and the word “ERROR!” When I have tried FreeDOS 1.1, with the hard disk in place, it boots to the point where it list the hard disk’s CHS geometry and then just hangs....

Any ideas?

Simon 
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